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Instructions · Help Commonly misunderstood Coach Coach Z's line about "Glorten" Camp echoes a similar line from him in mascot. There, he refers to the same entity in two different ways, and here, he refers to two different entities in the same way. From: Weclome Back Posted on: 06:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Arguments for: Compare the lines below - an almost identical construct with only a reversal of one detail. What lines below? Arguments against: It's like somebody said "Remember that time that Coach Z did that thing that was the exact opposite of what he did just now?" Coach Z talks funny. There doesn't seem to be a special connection between the two instances mentioned that distinguishes them from other instances. Even if the fact is accepted it should be rewritten as it is unclear about what is being referenced. It is a similar joke, but it's not clear that it's a reference The lines are actually different then what the fact is trying to say. (See Comments) No idea what this argument is saying. The original line said "The Chort" then "The Cheat". Weclome Back's line is "Glorten Camp" then "Glorten Camp". The similarity is striking. There would be more of a case for it, though, if he said "Gluten" the second time. Looking at the fun fact about this in mascot#Remarks, and where it's discussed on the article's talk page, it seems the consensus is that Coach Z is referring to two different entities, not one, thus taking the legs out from under this proposed fun fact. I think the joke here is just that when spoken with Coach Z's accent, "Gluten" and "Glutton" both sound like "Glorten". Additional comments: The quote referenced in the remark is this: COACH Z: Get yer head in the game, The Chort! The Cheat is wide open! The other line (for a fair comparison) is: COACH Z: Let's go, Glorten Camp! Glorten Camp is pain and scranin' on yous! It's not that what he did is exactly the opposite as is argued in one ArgAgainst - it's that what he did was extremely similar, but he reversed one detail. Votes to accept: Votes to decline: Jay v.2023 (Auld lang syne) DorianGray YK SyrenaV Jnelson09 — Kilroy / talk Bantam-Boy Zelinda — Bassbone (TALK CONT) Super Martyo Brother PolarBoy Trey56 TotalSpaceshipGirl3 Geshmalder H*Bad – The Chort — User:ACupOfCoffee@ Trelawney D2htornado CaptainPhlegmatic Mycroft Holmes Point7Q — Lapper (talk) LGC&CS Sam Goldfish  Loafing BazookaJoe [ Back to STUFF index ]

Instructions · Help Whistling candy "Toot sweet" is a play on the French phrase "tout de suite" (which translates to "immediately" or "at once"). Both phrases are pronounced roughly the same. From: Weclome Back Posted on: 23:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC) Arguments for: This is the origin of the phrase - anything else that used it was borrowing it from the French phrase in the first place. Arguments against: This is the exact phrase that an entire song was written about in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang." I'm not saying that it's a reference to that either, only that there are multiple possibilities. Not that I'm saying this isn't accurate or anything, but it's really not that worth saying. Not worth saying? I certainly wouldn't have known what it meant before taking French, and even after taking it the best I had was a vague consciousness that I should know what it meant. People will look in Explanations for, well, some explanation. Um... does this fact even apply if the transcript is showing the original French phrase rather than "toot sweet"? :P Additional comments: Re: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang: Where do you think they got the phrase from? They invented a candy that made a "toot" sound when you blew in it. That's where they got it from. And where do you think they... etc. etc. The candy in Chitty was a pun on 'toute de suite' as well. Furthermore, at one point during the song, one of the characters makes a pun by using the name of the candy in place of the French phrase. The second "T" in "tout" is silent. Marzipan mispronounces it. Which might be relevant if the real phrase wasn't "tout de suite". Marzipan's line is certainly heavily Anglicized, but all of the resources I can find show the internal -t- as being pronounced. None of the pronunciations I can find have the "de" factoring in at all (or it blends with the first word). I have reworded the item above accordingly. Actually, the "de" is the "t". The "t" is silent, but the "de" makes up for it (final unaccented Es, even in two-letter words, are usually not pronounced.) So, it's "tou-d-suit", which sounds very much like "toot sweet". Given which, I don't feel that it even qualifies as "heavily Anglicized". Okay, her vowels are a little bright, but that's not "heavily." Votes to accept: Votes to decline: Jay v.2023 (Auld lang syne) Spell4yr DorianGray - Qermaq - (T/C)  →Evin290 H*Bad Bantam-Boy Benabik Slimer049 — Elcool (talk)(contribs) Trelawney Trey56 Jeppo TotalSpaceshipGirl3 – The Chort Unknownwarrior33 ⇔Thunderbird⇔ SyrenaV D2htornado —  KieferSkunk (talk) — Stonecold5987 (talk·edits) AbdiViklas NightOfTheLivingEric Qduk Point7Q Brittany [ Back to STUFF index ]