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'''Is there an update to <span class="hovul">[https://homestarrunner.com/ homestarrunner.com]</span>?'''<br />
If so, please add it to the [[H*R.com updates 2026|updates]] page. If you're not sure how to do that, then just post a note on [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2026|this page]], and we'll take care of the rest. Thanks!
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I occasionally am logged out for no reason when I don't click the "log out" button. Do we have an automatic log out or something, or is there some glitch in the server? [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 19:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
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* [#Auto_Log_Out.3F 1 Auto Log Out?]
* [#New_inside_ref. 2 New inside ref.]
* [#Heroes_Con 3 Heroes Con]
* [#Back_from_the_future.3F 4 Back from the future?]
* [#Background_Image 5 Background Image]
* [#Spongebob_in_china.3F 6 Spongebob in china?]
* [#Accepted_Spelling 7 Accepted Spelling]
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* [#The_.5BCharacter_Name_Here.5D 10 The [Character Name Here]]
* [#Timeline.2FHistorical_Dates_for_homestarrunner.com 11 Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com]
* [#Search_Engine_Addition_In_Firefox 12 Search Engine Addition In Firefox]
* [#Bringing_back_an_old_discussion 13 Bringing back an old discussion]
* [#Read-Only_Forum 14 Read-Only Forum]
* [#Stinkoman_20X6 15 Stinkoman 20X6]
* [#.28Main.29_namespace_calamities.3F.21 16 (Main) namespace calamities?!]
* [#More_skins 17 More skins]
* [#A_small_problem 18 A small problem]
* [#RSS_Feed 19 RSS Feed]
* [#Rocoulm_b.2Fw_Beans 20 Rocoulm b/w Beans]
 
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<span id="auto-log-out"></span>
== <span class="mw-headline"> Auto Log Out? </span> ==
 
I occasionally am logged out for no reason when I don't click the &quot;log out&quot; button. Do we have an automatic log out or something, or is there some glitch in the server? [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 19:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


Maybe your cookies expired. Happens to me on occasion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Maybe your cookies expired. Happens to me on occasion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Maybe. I didn't know that could happen. Which isn't that unusual. Thanks! https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Maybe. I didn't know that could happen. Which isn't that unusual. Thanks! [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I find there's an inevitable period of time when I come onto the wiki and I am not automatically logged in. Happens. Log in again, be sure to to check the "always keep me logged in" and go. A few times a year ain't a problem. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 23:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I'm talking about moving from page to page on the wiki. I don't use "always stay logged in" because I've got a little brother who will probably get me banned. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I find there's an inevitable period of time when I come onto the wiki and I am not automatically logged in. Happens. Log in again, be sure to to check the &quot;always keep me logged in&quot; and go. A few times a year ain't a problem. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 23:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
It might be that you're moving between [http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org], which even though they are the same thing are treated differently by your computer. To avoid the problem, I log in on both. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I'd consider that a glitch in the server. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 18:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm talking about moving from page to page on the wiki. I don't use &quot;always stay logged in&quot; because I've got a little brother who will probably get me banned. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Without going into too much horrible detail: [http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org] are considered by your browser to be two different sites for technical reasons. This is not a trivial thing to fix. Similarly, the cookies do not translate from one site to the next for ''security'' reasons. So, no glitch, just something you gotta keep your eye on. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 
It might be that you're moving between <span class="plainlinks">[http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org]</span>, which even though they are the same thing are treated differently by your computer. To avoid the problem, I log in on both. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I'd consider that a glitch in the server. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 18:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Without going into too much horrible detail: <span class="plainlinks">[http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org]</span> and <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org]</span> are considered by your browser to be two different sites for technical reasons. This is not a trivial thing to fix. Similarly, the cookies do not translate from one site to the next for ''security'' reasons. So, no glitch, just something you gotta keep your eye on. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Given that this is a pretty low security site (no personal info, etc.), you could just set the cookie with a domain of .hrwiki.org --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 15:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Given that this is a pretty low security site (no personal info, etc.), you could just set the cookie with a domain of .hrwiki.org --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 15:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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== New inside ref. ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> New inside ref. </span> ==


Most of my other attempts at officializing inside references have been turned down, so I figured I'd ask here this time.
Most of my other attempts at officializing inside references have been turned down, so I figured I'd ask here this time.


'''Marzipan dating The Cheat'''. This seems to be an omvious recurring theme, even before [[Date Nite]], what with their secret hot dates.
'''Marzipan dating The Cheat'''. This seems to be an omvious recurring theme, even before [[Date Nite]], what with their secret hot dates.
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See [[Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
See [[Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


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== Heroes Con ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Heroes Con </span> ==


[[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] will be in/near Charlotte, NC this weekend at the [http://www.heroesonline.com/heroescon.html Heroes Convention], as confirmed [http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-347 here]. They will be at booth 532, and the con goes from Friday to Sunday. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs])</span> 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
[[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] will be in/near Charlotte, NC this weekend at the [http://www.heroesonline.com/heroescon.html Heroes Convention], as confirmed [http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-347 here]. They will be at booth 532, and the con goes from Friday to Sunday. [[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


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== Back from the future? ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Back from the future? </span> ==


The weekly stuff doesn't seem to be on the site yet... —<span class="plainlinks">[[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]] <span style="cursor: help; color: green;">(</span><sup><span class="small">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runner [[File:thorax.png|thumb|thorax.png]]]</span></sup><span class="small">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runner [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/file_icon.gif]]</span><sub>[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/mail_icon.gif]]</sub><span style="cursor: help; color: green;">)</span></span> 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The weekly stuff doesn't seem to be on the site yet... —[[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]] (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner) 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 
You're right! Woah! [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 12:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


You're right! Woah! https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 12:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
After about 2 or more days of it being on HRWiki, it's STILL not on the main site. =/ Who knows, maybe it'll come with the next update? [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
After about 2 or more days of it being on HRWiki, it's STILL not on the main site. =/ Who knows, maybe it'll come with the next update? [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Hmm, it's on the main page for me... try clearing your cache. [[User talk:Trey56|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]][[User:Trey56|'''''Trey''''''''''56''''']] 14:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, it's on the main page for me... try clearing your cache. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Trey56|[[File:The-cheat-small.png|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Trey56|Trey56]]</span> 14:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I think he means on the [https://homestarrunner.com/main19.html main pages] of homestarrunner.com. I doubt that The Brothers Chaps know about this problem so we will never get to see those weeklies (I can't see it either). Hopefully the next time the quotes are updated this problem won't happen again. [[User:Homestar-Winner|'''Homestar'''-'''Winner''']] [[User talk:Homestar-Winner|'''(talk)''']] 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Right, I assumed s/he meant the h*r.com main pages, but as early as last night, I was able to view the weeklies through [[Main Page 10]]. Interestingly, though, I can't get them on this (different from last night) computer even after doing a hard refresh. Maybe I have to completely obliterate my cache... [[User talk:Trey56|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]][[User:Trey56|'''''Trey''''''''''56''''']] 15:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I think he means on the [https://homestarrunner.com/main19.html main pages] of homestarrunner.com. I doubt that The Brothers Chaps know about this problem so we will never get to see those weeklies (I can't see it either). Hopefully the next time the quotes are updated this problem won't happen again. [[User:Homestar-Winner|Homestar-Winner]] [[User talk:Homestar-Winner|(talk)]] 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Right, I assumed s/he meant the h*r.com main pages, but as early as last night, I was able to view the weeklies through [[Main Page 10]]. Interestingly, though, I can't get them on this (different from last night) computer even after doing a hard refresh. Maybe I have to completely obliterate my cache... <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Trey56|[[File:The-cheat-small.png|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Trey56|Trey56]]</span> 15:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 
What operating system and browser are you useing? I'm using windows vista b/w IE 8.0. Maybe it's got something to do with that.
What operating system and browser are you useing? I'm using windows vista b/w IE 8.0. Maybe it's got something to do with that.
My cache is removed every time I close my browser (Firefox 3 btw), and I'm using Xubuntu 8.04. The games menu also has issues with flashplayer-nonfree for Linux =/ [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
My cache is removed every time I close my browser (Firefox 3 btw), and I'm using Xubuntu 8.04. The games menu also has issues with flashplayer-nonfree for Linux =/ [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


Okay, this is a bit late, but I originally meant that the weekly stuff that was here wasn't on homestarrunner.com. I just wanted to know whether it was and why it was removed. —<span class="plainlinks">[[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]] <span style="cursor: help; color: green;">(</span><sup><span class="small">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runner [[File:thorax.png|thumb|thorax.png]]]</span></sup><span class="small">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runner [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/file_icon.gif]]</span><sub>[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/mail_icon.gif]]</sub><span style="cursor: help; color: green;">)</span></span> 23:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is a bit late, but I originally meant that the weekly stuff that was here wasn't on homestarrunner.com. I just wanted to know whether it was and why it was removed. —[[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]] (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner) 23:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


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== Background Image ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Background Image </span> ==


Okay, some questions about the greyscale field background:<br />
Okay, some questions about the greyscale field background:<br />


# Where is the actual file located?<br />
# Where is the actual file located?<br />
# Is there any interest in replacing it with the most up-to-date field/sky that TBC have been using?
# Is there any interest in replacing it with the most up-to-date field/sky that TBC have been using?
#* If so, is there any interest in manipulating it to be a &quot;tiling&quot; background so that it would be seamless for use on any resolution?
#* If so, is there any interest in manipulating it to be a "tiling" background so that it would be seamless for use on any resolution?
#* If not, can we resize the existing one so that it's at least 1280 pixels wide? (1440 pixels wide would be my preference, actually)
#* If not, can we resize the existing one so that it's at least 1280 pixels wide? (1440 pixels wide would be my preference, actually)


Yes, most articles are large enough that the background is almost never seen, but for &quot;young&quot; talk pages it'd be nice for the background to get ''some'' pleasing visibility. IMHO. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 07:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, most articles are large enough that the background is almost never seen, but for "young" talk pages it'd be nice for the background to get ''some'' pleasing visibility. IMHO. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 07:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
It's at [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg], 1250 pixels wide and 24kB large. My screen is 1680 pixels wide, and I don't think I noticed the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|awkward tiling]] until now. I don't think we should make the image wider. It will increase the file size, and who knows when the next user comes with an even wider screen. But yeah, a version that repeats seamlessly ''would'' look better and might even reduce the file size. Having said that, I don't think it's too important to change, either ;-) [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|[[File:UserLoafingSig.png|19px|thumb]]]] 10:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Also, the image right now is 523 pixels in height. I don't think many HRWiki'ers use 800x600, so its height could be increased too, by adding to the sky... and there's plenty of sky to work with. That would make the field visible on the screen for longer. And having an increased-size jpeg can't be ''that'' much bigger. But unlike any given article image, I guess it is a file that's loaded by thousands more people so maybe that little increase could be a big deal. Anyway, a tiled background wouldn't be entirely authentic to TBC's work but could still make sense. And yes, I know it's not too important to change it, but I'm always [[User:OptimisticFool|asking]] for a challenge (of the image variety). I'm going to play around with it for a bit. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 17:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


It's at [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg], 1250 pixels wide and 24kB large. My screen is 1680 pixels wide, and I don't think I noticed the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|awkward tiling]] until now. I don't think we should make the image wider. It will increase the file size, and who knows when the next user comes with an even wider screen. But yeah, a version that repeats seamlessly ''would'' look better and might even reduce the file size. Having said that, I don't think it's too important to change, either ;-) [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png]] 10:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, the image right now is 523 pixels in height.  I don't think many HRWiki'ers use 800x600, so its height could be increased too, by adding to the sky... and there's plenty of sky to work with.  That would make the field visible on the screen for longer.  And having an increased-size jpeg can't be ''that'' much bigger.  But unlike any given article image, I guess it is a file that's loaded by thousands more people so maybe that little increase could be a big deal.  Anyway, a tiled background wouldn't be entirely authentic to TBC's work but could still make sense.  And yes, I know it's not too important to change it, but I'm always [[User:OptimisticFool|asking]] for a challenge (of the image variety).  I'm going to play around with it for a bit.  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 17:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey! I use 800x600, and I like it! Well, that's when I'm on my computer. No idea what the resolution is on my TV when I'm on my Wii. [[User:Superfield Credit Union|Superfield]][[User talk:Superfield Credit Union|CreditUnion]]
Hey! I use 800x600, and I like it! Well, that's when I'm on my computer. No idea what the resolution is on my TV when I'm on my Wii. [[User:Superfield Credit Union|Superfield]][[User talk:Superfield Credit Union|CreditUnion]]
Are you [[Dislike of Old People|60+]] or do you just have bad eyesight?  =]  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


Are you [[Dislike of Old People|60+]] or do you just have bad eyesight? =] <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the Wii's Internet Channel emulates an 800x600 screen as well. As for the tiling background issue, it definitely would look better if it were either widened or changed so that the tiling is seamless, though I don't think it's too important to change, as there aren't many pages on the wiki where we end up seeing the entire background image. — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' / '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]''' 18:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
The Widescreen setting on the Wii makes the resolution something else. Though my laptop is Hi-Definition. (which is wide) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the Wii's Internet Channel emulates an 800x600 screen as well. As for the tiling background issue, it definitely would look better if it were either widened or changed so that the tiling is seamless, though I don't think it's too important to change, as there aren't many pages on the wiki where we end up seeing the entire background image. — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' <span class="small">/ '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'''</span> 18:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
The Widescreen setting on the Wii makes the resolution something else. Though my laptop is Hi-Definition. (which is wide) [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 
For your information, I prefer not to have everything on my screen about the size of a grain of sand, and I have excellent eyesight. And I do set my Wii to widescreen. [[User:Superfield Credit Union|Superfield]][[User talk:Superfield Credit Union|CreditUnion]]
For your information, I prefer not to have everything on my screen about the size of a grain of sand, and I have excellent eyesight. And I do set my Wii to widescreen. [[User:Superfield Credit Union|Superfield]][[User talk:Superfield Credit Union|CreditUnion]]
''{kills colons}'' What does having grain of sand stuff have to do with anything? Hi-Def leaves stuff the same size, but with a better resolution. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 20:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
''{adds another colon anyway :D}'' Actually when you set the Wii to widescreen mode, the screen width stays at 800, but the height is changed to something else.. I think it lowers it to around 450 or something.  Oh, and I have my Wii set to widescreen mode and text is, for the most part, readable to me.  Though whenever I use the Internet Channel on a standard-def TV, the text definitely is grain-of-sand sized.  :S  — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' / '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]''' 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
''{kills the new colon}'' Oh. I thought he was talking about Hi-Def laptop screens. — [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] ([[User talk:DrPepper42|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/DrPepper42 contribs]) 20:42, 21 June 2008  (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])


''{kills colons}'' What does having grain of sand stuff have to do with anything? Hi-Def leaves stuff the same size, but with a better resolution. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 20:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
This thread is for discussing the size of our background image. Discussions about why your particular screen resolution p0wns everybody else's should go on the forum. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png]] 20:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


''{adds another colon anyway :D}'' Actually when you set the Wii to widescreen mode, the screen width stays at 800, but the height is changed to something else.. I think it lowers it to around 450 or something. Oh, and I have my Wii set to widescreen mode and text is, for the most part, readable to me. Though whenever I use the Internet Channel on a standard-def TV, the text definitely is grain-of-sand sized.  :S — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' <span class="small">/ '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'''</span> 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I was talking about what effects my screen had on the background. It doesn't look that bad. Maybe I'm just crazy. and, I don't use the forum. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
As you can see from my awesome colon indentation, I was not replying directly to your post but was rather commenting on this discussion in general. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png]] 00:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


''{kills the new colon}'' Oh. I thought he was talking about Hi-Def laptop screens. <span class="small">— [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] ([[User talk:DrPepper42|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/DrPepper42 contribs]) 20:42, 21 June 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])</span>
https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/f/f1/Field.png/180px-Field.png


This thread is for discussing the size of our background image. Discussions about why your particular screen resolution p0wns everybody else's should go on the forum. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|[[File:UserLoafingSig.png|19px|thumb]]]] 20:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
''Fit to be tiled''


I was talking about what effects my screen had on the background. It doesn't look that bad. Maybe I'm just crazy. and, I don't use the forum. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Here's the tile and [http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2048/fieldtiledtr0.png this is what it looks like tiled]. I tried grayscaling it and getting the brightness and contrast to match what we already have, but it just wasn't working for me.  So these are my results in color.  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 05:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


As you can see from my awesome colon indentation, I was not replying directly to your post but was rather commenting on this discussion in general. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|[[File:UserLoafingSig.png|19px|thumb]]]] 00:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Nice work, Oppie. The tile effect is positively seamless. If someone could get that greyscaled, I think we should use it. --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/b9/Mario2.PNG] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]] 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Looks good to me! [[User talk:Trey56|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]][[User:Trey56|'''''Trey''''''''''56''''']] 19:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Awesome job, OptimisticFool!  — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' / '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]''' 19:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


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Thanks for the support so far, juys. Now here's what I suggest: Replace [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg this 23.5k jpeg] with [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1783/fieldgreyxd2.png this 11.2k png], thus turning [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3047/fullbeforeiu5.png this] into [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7641/fullafterpl8.png this]. I added some extra cloudless space at the top of the greyscaled image since it will always be completely covered up. (There are two exceptions (that I can think of) to this: (1) someone blanks a page completely, and (2) a <pre> goes long, [[HRWiki:Sandbox|like this]] (hint: scroll right).) So, yeah, the extra space allows the background to be visible for longer. Any other suggestions? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 07:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
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[[File:Field.png|[[File:Field.png|180px|thumb]]]]
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[[File:Field.png|[[File:magnify-clip.png|15px|thumb]]]]
 
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Fit to be tiled
 
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Here's [[File:Field.png|the tile]] and [http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2048/fieldtiledtr0.png this is what it looks like tiled]. I tried grayscaling it and getting the brightness and contrast to match what we already have, but it just wasn't working for me. So these are my results in color. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 05:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Nice work, Oppie. The tile effect is positively seamless. If someone could get that greyscaled, I think we should use it. --<span class="plainlinks" style="white-space: nowrap" title="Now with 50% more bounce!">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother [[File:Mario2.PNG|thumb|Mario2.PNG]]] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]]</span> 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Looks good to me! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Trey56|[[File:The-cheat-small.png|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Trey56|Trey56]]</span> 19:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Awesome job, OptimisticFool! — '''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]''' <span class="small">/ '''[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'''</span> 19:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Thanks for the support so far, juys. Now here's what I suggest: Replace [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg this 23.5k jpeg] with [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1783/fieldgreyxd2.png this 11.2k png], thus turning [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3047/fullbeforeiu5.png this] into [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7641/fullafterpl8.png this]. I added some extra cloudless space at the top of the greyscaled image since it will always be completely covered up. <span class="small">(There are two exceptions (that I can think of) to this: (1) someone blanks a page completely, and (2) a &lt;pre&gt; goes long, [[HRWiki:Sandbox|like this]] (hint: scroll right).)</span> So, yeah, the extra space allows the background to be visible for longer. Any other suggestions? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 07:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
So, umm.. is this being considered? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 21:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Sounds good to me, but somebody with the powers would have to actually carry it out. --<span class="plainlinks" style="white-space: nowrap" title="Now with 50% more bounce!">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother [[File:Mario2.PNG|thumb|Mario2.PNG]]] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]]</span> 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Here's another [http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6264/before1440x900sa7.png Before] and [http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9693/after1440x900ii6.png After], this time from my Lappy. The 1440 width shows it better than the 1280 width. And Super Martyo, what I was wondering is if the folks with powers were considering this. =] <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 17:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


So, umm.. is this being considered?  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 21:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, but somebody with the powers would have to actually carry it out. --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/b9/Mario2.PNG] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]] 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's another [http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6264/before1440x900sa7.png Before] and [http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9693/after1440x900ii6.png After], this time from my Lappy.  The 1440 width shows it better than the 1280 width.  And Super Martyo, what I was wondering is if the folks with powers were considering this.  =]  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 17:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh! Yes! I'd read this thread a while ago and just got busy and hadn't had a chance to replace the appropriate files. Not to worry, though, it will be happening. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh! Yes! I'd read this thread a while ago and just got busy and hadn't had a chance to replace the appropriate files. Not to worry, though, it will be happening. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Cool tapes, man. =] https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Cool tapes, man. =] <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Another month and a half-ish... is this just low on the to-do list, or has it gotten forgotten? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 00:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Another month and a half-ish... is this just low on the to-do list, or has it gotten forgotten? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 00:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Not forgotten. We're upgrading to MediaWiki 1.13 soon, and this change will be included in that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Not forgotten. We're upgrading to MediaWiki 1.13 soon, and this change will be included in that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


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== Spongebob in china? ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Spongebob in china? </span> ==
 
On youtube i found this video and matt chapman name was in it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls&amp;feature=related [1]]


I know it's come up before, though I can't recall where. I believe we decided it was a coincidence. &quot;Matt&quot; and &quot;Chapman&quot; are not uncommon names. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] [[User talk:Jay|(Gobble)]] 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
On youtube i found this video and matt chapman name was in it
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls&feature=related [1]]


[[Talk:Matt Chapman|This]] is where it was discussed before. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|[[File:UserLoafingSig.png|19px|thumb]]]] 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I know it's come up before, though I can't recall where. I believe we decided it was a coincidence. "Matt" and "Chapman" are not uncommon names. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Gobble)]] 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Talk:Matt Chapman|This]] is where it was discussed before. [[User:Loafing|Loafing]][[User talk:Loafing|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png]] 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


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== Accepted Spelling ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Accepted Spelling </span> ==


I think the wiki ought to be consistent in its spelling. Recently the spelling of [[Weclome Back|donut/doughnut]] reminded me of this. Another one is [[Talk:bedtime story|gummi/gummy]]. Has the broad subject of consistency in spelling been brought up before? I think it kind of goes in the category of flavor/flavour, as well. Another one that comes to mind is y'all/ya'll. So, do we or should we have a page to list our &quot;decisions&quot; regarding spelling, with its accompanying talk page available to reach a consensus for each of these and others? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I think the wiki ought to be consistent in its spelling. Recently the spelling of [[Weclome Back|donut/doughnut]] reminded me of this. Another one is [[Talk:bedtime story|gummi/gummy]]. Has the broad subject of consistency in spelling been brought up before? I think it kind of goes in the category of flavor/flavour, as well. Another one that comes to mind is y'all/ya'll. So, do we or should we have a page to list our "decisions" regarding spelling, with its accompanying talk page available to reach a consensus for each of these and others? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


Such things would probably go under [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Such things would probably go under [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
As a general rule, we spell it like TBC do. If they have not spelled it out, or they have been inconsistent (and we always agree with their spelling in related situations) then we generally use the most accepted spelling based on what evidence we can collect. "Doughnut", IMO, trumps "donut" which is clearly a shortened, slang form. "Y'all" is the correct form; however, we use "ya'll" when TBC do. And obviously American spellings are used over British. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't agree with you on the spelling of donut.. =] ..but my purpose in bringing this up here was not to gain consensus, but rather to find out where I ought to take these questions of spelling.  Since [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]] is where the topic is addressed, I'll take it to the talk page of that article.  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 00:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


As a general rule, we spell it like TBC do. If they have not spelled it out, or they have been inconsistent (and we always agree with their spelling in related situations) then we generally use the most accepted spelling based on what evidence we can collect. &quot;Doughnut&quot;, IMO, trumps &quot;donut&quot; which is clearly a shortened, slang form. &quot;Y'all&quot; is the correct form; however, we use &quot;ya'll&quot; when TBC do. And obviously American spellings are used over British. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
== __utm.js ==
 
I don't agree with you on the spelling of donut.. =] ..but my purpose in bringing this up here was not to gain consensus, but rather to find out where I ought to take these questions of spelling. Since [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]] is where the topic is addressed, I'll take it to the talk page of that article. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 00:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 
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== <span class="mw-headline"> __utm.js </span> ==
 
Anyone know what significance (if any) [http://web.archive.org/web/*hh_/www.homestarrunner.com/__utm.js this] has? It doesn't appear to be on the site now, but it used to be. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|[[File:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px|thumb]]]] [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]</span> 03:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 
It's part of a traffic report analyzing system they may have used (or just toyed with... or maybe their ISP just put there... ). The Urchin software was bought by Google in '05. <span style="white-space: nowrap; padding-left: 4px;">[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|15px|thumb]]]] [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]]</span> 03:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 
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== <span class="mw-headline"> Random Junk </span> ==
 
Is it just me, or does the rando link, and R on the main pages not work more than normal. This also affects sbemail menu. I constantly can't do rando junk because of it. [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>


Hmm, all three seem to be working for me... does it affect anything if you try a different web browser or a different computer? <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Trey56|[[File:The-cheat-small.png|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Trey56|Trey56]]</span> 21:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know what significance (if any) [http://web.archive.org/web/*hh_/www.homestarrunner.com/__utm.js this] has?  It doesn't appear to be on the site now, but it used to be. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/37/JustOrangeCouch.png/48px-JustOrangeCouch.png [[User:OptimisticFool|'''OptimisticFool''']] 03:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


It worked suddenly 4 mins after that. =/ [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>
It's part of a traffic report analyzing system they may have used (or just toyed with... or maybe their ISP just put there... ).  The Urchin software was bought by Google in '05. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/4a/greenhelmet-transparent.png/15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]] 03:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


Great! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Trey56|[[File:The-cheat-small.png|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Trey56|Trey56]]</span> 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
== Random Junk ==


It does this off and on though, for me at least once a day now. [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>
Is it just me, or does the rando link, and R on the main pages not work more than normal. This also affects sbemail menu. I constantly can't do rando junk because of it. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]


What exactly isn't working? — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 21:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, all three seem to be working for me... does it affect anything if you try a different web browser or a different computer? [[User talk:Trey56|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]][[User:Trey56|'''''Trey''''''''''56''''']] 21:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
It worked suddenly 4 mins after that. =/ https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]
Great! [[User talk:Trey56|https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]][[User:Trey56|'''''Trey''''''''''56''''']] 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
It does this off and on though, for me at least once a day now. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]
What exactly isn't working? — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 21:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
rando link in the bottom (horizontal) navigation, R button on all of the main pages, and sbemail menu. This happens at least once every day to me. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]


rando link in the bottom (horizontal) navigation, R button on all of the main pages, and sbemail menu. This happens at least once every day to me. [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>
== The [Character Name Here] ==


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Is there an article describing, outlining the use of "The" in character names? If so, what's its name? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]
== <span class="mw-headline"> The [Character Name Here] </span> ==
 
Is there an article describing, outlining the use of &quot;The&quot; in character names? If so, what's its name? [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>


See [[Integral Article]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
See [[Integral Article]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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== Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com </span> ==


As someone interested in reconstructing the history of how the Bros Chaps developed the Homestar universe and website, I would really like to see a feature on the wiki that would list all the content according to the date when it was first added to the Homestar website.
As someone interested in reconstructing the history of how the Bros Chaps developed the Homestar universe and website, I would really like to see a feature on the wiki that would list all the content according to the date when it was first added to the Homestar website.
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Most articles do currently feature dates, but to my knowledge there's no page where the cartoons and other material on the Homestar website are listed by date.
Most articles do currently feature dates, but to my knowledge there's no page where the cartoons and other material on the Homestar website are listed by date.


I'm not an advanced Wiki person, so I've no idea how much work would be involved, but it strikes me as a really vital resource for the wiki. --[[User:Henebry|Henebry]] 23:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not an advanced Wiki person, so I've no idea how much work would be involved, but it strikes me as a really vital resource for the wiki.
 
--[[User:Henebry|Henebry]] 23:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
[[All Toons]] lists everything by date. '''[[File:Clear Chimendez.PNG|[[File:Clear_Chimendez.PNG|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 23:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
These have the ''updates'' for [[H*R.com updates 2000|2000 and before]], [[H*R.com updates 2001|2001]], [[H*R.com updates 2002|2002]], [[H*R.com updates 2003|2003]], [[H*R.com updates 2004|2004]], [[H*R.com updates 2005|2005]], [[H*R.com updates 2006|2006]], [[H*R.com updates 2007|2007]], and [[H*R.com updates 2008|2008]]. If you would like a briefer history, go [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|here]]. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs])</span> 23:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 
<span id="search-engine-addition-in-firefox"></span>
== <span class="mw-headline"> Search Engine Addition In Firefox </span> ==
 
Firefox cuts off the search engine name, and labels it as '''Homestar Runner Wiki (En''' is there any discussion or whatnot to have the name of the wiki shortened so that it fits? Because it's annoying to see that I can still add '''Homestar Runner Wiki (English)''' to the search engines list (The search box also says a new search engine can be added even though I've already added this engine.) You can always bring it up over at Mozilla.com's bugzilla or something, but I'm sure the bug will immediately be marked as invalid. I'm also sure they'll mark it as an invalid enhancement, and state that &quot;The website can shorten its name, there's NO reason why it isn't possible for them to shorten that name.&quot;
 
For instance, Why not use HRWiki as a name? [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>
 
I don't get why it should annoy you. That being said, there's no reason for the wiki to shorten its title to something less descriptive just so you can have the full name in your search bar. If you care so much, download the source code to firefox and change the code yourself. As for the &quot;Add Homestar Runner Wiki (English)&quot; still being there, that happens with all search engines. Go to any site that you already have on that list, it will do the same thing. Basically, none of what you said has anything to do with us. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX8bZASFNA I have to disagree] with the very last statement there. I'll make it harder for you to see (with this youtube video) since you apparently haven't seen it yourself. [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span>
 
Fine, you're apparently right. It doesn't happen on other sites. It's still a result of something that has nothing to do with us. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 
I'll admit I'm at a loss to understand what the issue is. Can someone summarize in small words, please? <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 
(edit conflict) <s>The &quot;Add Homestar Runner Wiki&quot; thing at the bottom is there because Firefox is detecting a search box on the current page. For example, go to any random page that has a search box on it, (say, [https://addons.mozilla.org/ https://addons.mozilla.org/]) Check that drop-down and you'll see what I mean.</s> (Post edit conflict note: the other issue is aethetic, the name for the wiki is wider than the space Firefox displays it in). <span style="white-space: nowrap; padding-left: 4px;">[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|15px|thumb]]]] [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]]</span> 02:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Ignore the first part, I see the problem now. I'm guessing that because the truncated string doesn't match the full string, Firefox doesn't properly detect that you've ''already'' added the search. <span style="white-space: nowrap; padding-left: 4px;">[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|15px|thumb]]]] [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]]</span> 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


Qermaq, it's an issue that the firefox search bar only allows names of up to 24 characters. He's suggesting that the wiki shorten its name so it fits, inconveniencing others but fixing his minor annoyance. GreenGuy, no, he's saying it's there even though he's added it already. He's right, this bug in FF causes this as well, but it's a FF problem, and i don't see any reason for the wiki to change to suit one person with one glitchy program. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
[[All Toons]] lists everything by date. '''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/25/Clear_Chimendez.PNG/20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNG[[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 23:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
These have the ''updates'' for [[H*R.com updates 2000|2000 and before]], [[H*R.com updates 2001|2001]], [[H*R.com updates 2002|2002]], [[H*R.com updates 2003|2003]], [[H*R.com updates 2004|2004]], [[H*R.com updates 2005|2005]], [[H*R.com updates 2006|2006]], [[H*R.com updates 2007|2007]], and [[H*R.com updates 2008|2008]]. If you would like a briefer history, go [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|here]]. [[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 23:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


I see the issue. It's not an issue. It's just a bug in FF3 and will likely be corrected down the road. I fail to see the negative consequence of this behavior, though. You can select &quot;'''Homestar Runner Wiki (En'''&quot; and type in, as I did, &quot;sbemail50&quot; and it works. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 02:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
== Search Engine Addition In Firefox ==


I can see how it would be a minor annoyance, but seriously... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Firefox cuts off the search engine name, and labels it as '''Homestar Runner Wiki (En''' is there any discussion or whatnot to have the name of the wiki shortened so that it fits? Because it's annoying to see that I can still add '''Homestar Runner Wiki (English)''' to the search engines list (The search box also says a new search engine can be added even though I've already added this engine.) You can always bring it up over at Mozilla.com's bugzilla or something, but I'm sure the bug will immediately be marked as invalid. I'm also sure they'll mark it as an invalid enhancement, and state that "The website can shorten its name, there's NO reason why it isn't possible for them to shorten that name."


I see now. Anyway, yeah I'd say just deal with it (24 is a very small limit to impose, I wouldn't be surprised if the mozzerella coders increase that in future releases). <span style="white-space: nowrap; padding-left: 4px;">[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|[[File:greenhelmet-transparent.png|15px|thumb]]]] [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]]</span> 02:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
For instance, Why not use HRWiki as a name? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]


Seems a recent update of Firefox may have fixed this issue. [[File:Nohito.PNG|[[File:Nohito.PNG|18px|thumb]]]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]</span> 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't get why it should annoy you. That being said, there's no reason for the wiki to shorten its title to something less descriptive just so you can have the full name in your search bar. If you care so much, download the source code to firefox and change the code yourself. As for the "Add Homestar Runner Wiki (English)" still being there, that happens with all search engines. Go to any site that you already have on that list, it will do the same thing. Basically, none of what you said has anything to do with us. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX8bZASFNA I have to disagree] with the very last statement there. I'll make it harder for you to see (with this youtube video) since you apparently haven't seen it yourself. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]]
Fine, you're apparently right. It doesn't happen on other sites. It's still a result of something that has nothing to do with us. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I'll admit I'm at a loss to understand what the issue is. Can someone summarize in small words, please? - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The "Add Homestar Runner Wiki" thing at the bottom is there because Firefox is detecting a search box on the current page.  For example, go to any random page that has a search box on it, (say, [https://addons.mozilla.org/ https://addons.mozilla.org/])  Check that drop-down and you'll see what I mean. (Post edit conflict note: the other issue is aethetic, the name for the wiki is wider than the space Firefox displays it in). https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/4a/greenhelmet-transparent.png/15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]] 02:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Ignore the first part, I see the problem now.  I'm guessing that because the truncated string doesn't match the full string, Firefox doesn't properly detect that you've ''already'' added the search. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/4a/greenhelmet-transparent.png/15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]] 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Qermaq, it's an issue that the firefox search bar only allows names of up to 24 characters. He's suggesting that the wiki shorten its name so it fits, inconveniencing others but fixing his minor annoyance. GreenGuy, no, he's saying it's there even though he's added it already. He's right, this bug in FF causes this as well, but it's a FF problem, and i don't see any reason for the wiki to change to suit one person with one glitchy program. — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I see the issue. It's not an issue. It's just a bug in FF3 and will likely be corrected down the road. I fail to see the negative consequence of this behavior, though. You can select "'''Homestar Runner Wiki (En'''" and type in, as I did, "sbemail50" and it works. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 02:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I can see how it would be a minor annoyance, but seriously... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I see now.  Anyway, yeah I'd say just deal with it (24 is a very small limit to impose, I wouldn't be surprised if the mozzerella coders increase that in future releases). https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/4a/greenhelmet-transparent.png/15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png [[User:GreenHelmet|Green Helmet]] 02:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Seems a recent update of Firefox may have fixed this issue. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/b/b1/Nohito.PNG/18px-Nohito.PNG [[User:ColdReactive|Cold]][[User talk:ColdReactive|Reactive]] 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


<span id="bringing-back-an-old-discussion"></span>
== Bringing back an old discussion ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Bringing back an old discussion </span> ==


For a while, there was discussion of a main page redesign for our welcome project, but it sort of died in the water. I though this was a good idea, and some of the design were really nice. Any chance of bringing it back, or are we just going to leave it? --<span class="plainlinks" style="white-space: nowrap" title="Now with 50% more bounce!">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother [[File:Mario2.PNG|thumb|Mario2.PNG]]] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]]</span> 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
For a while, there was discussion of a main page redesign for our welcome project, but it sort of died in the water. I though this was a good idea, and some of the design were really nice. Any chance of bringing it back, or are we just going to leave it? --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/b9/Mario2.PNG] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]] 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


Well, I think it was just one of those things we got too busy for and moved on to other things, but if you have a great idea, I'm sure we'd entertain it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, I think it was just one of those things we got too busy for and moved on to other things, but if you have a great idea, I'm sure we'd entertain it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, the redesign was being done in conjunction with adding links to the multilingual welcome pages, which also seems to have gone fallow as well.  I suppose both projects are now dormant? [[User:Wbwolf|wbwolf]] ([[User talk:Wbwolf|t]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wbwolf ed]) 14:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


Well, the redesign was being done in conjunction with adding links to the multilingual welcome pages, which also seems to have gone fallow as well. I suppose both projects are now dormant? [[User:Wbwolf|wbwolf]] ([[User talk:Wbwolf|t]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wbwolf ed]) 14:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
== Read-Only Forum ==
 
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== <span class="mw-headline"> Read-Only Forum </span> ==


How long will it be until we can post stuff on the forum again? '''[[File:Clear Chimendez.PNG|[[File:Clear_Chimendez.PNG|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
How long will it be until we can post stuff on the forum again? '''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/25/Clear_Chimendez.PNG/20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNG[[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


That has not yet been determined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
That has not yet been determined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Did you at least find the cause of all the Lucy/Ricky/Billy Mays crap? '''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/25/Clear_Chimendez.PNG/20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNG[[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 02:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Did you at least find the cause of all the Lucy/Ricky/Billy Mays crap? '''[[File:Clear Chimendez.PNG|[[File:Clear_Chimendez.PNG|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 02:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
It was a little joke done by the Admin Ramrod. It was supposed to be only temporary, it was only for fun. [[User:Extremejon|extremejon]] — 76.113.157.206 ([[User talk:76.113.157.206|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 07:03, 20 July 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])
 
It was a little joke done by the Admin Ramrod. It was supposed to be only temporary, it was only for fun. <s>[[User:Extremejon|extremejon]]</s> <span class="small">— 76.113.157.206 ([[User talk:76.113.157.206|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 07:03, 20 July 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])</span>
 
I think you mean, it was an ill-conceived stunt gone horribly wrong that was supposed to be a joke done by the former admin ramrod. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I think you mean, it was an ill-conceived stunt gone horribly wrong that was supposed to be a joke done by the former admin ramrod. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Without getting into forum politics, Telltale Games relied on the forum to get information on their game out. - [[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]][[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]] 17:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Without getting into forum politics, Telltale Games relied on the forum to get information on their game out. - [[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]]<sub>[[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]]</sub> 17:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
And they will again, once it finally reopens. Not to worry, though: They have accounts here at the wiki, and they have emailed us directly before. I'm confident if they have news, it will reach the appropriate audience. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
And they will again, once it finally reopens. Not to worry, though: They have accounts here at the wiki, and they have emailed us directly before. I'm confident if they have news, it will reach the appropriate audience. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
The stunt didn't go wrong until the head admins took action. [[User:Extremejon|extremejon]] — 76.113.157.206 ([[User talk:76.113.157.206|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 20:51, 20 July 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])
The stunt didn't go wrong until the head admins took action. <s>[[User:Extremejon|extremejon]]</s> <span class="small">— 76.113.157.206 ([[User talk:76.113.157.206|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 20:51, 20 July 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])</span>
 
Yeah, you're probably right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, you're probably right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Wait, ''former'' admin ramrod? You unmodded him? [[User:JCM|JCM]] 20:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Wait, ''former'' admin ramrod? You unmodded him? [[User:JCM|JCM]] 20:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


Do I have rights to know why the forum needs to be closed even after undoing the prank and punishing ramrod? '''[[File:Clear Chimendez.PNG|[[File:Clear_Chimendez.PNG|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 03:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Do I have rights to know why the forum needs to be closed even after undoing the prank and punishing ramrod? '''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/25/Clear_Chimendez.PNG/20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNG[[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 03:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


That's a weird way to ask that question. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
That's a weird way to ask that question. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
What are the other reasons the forum's still closed? '''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/2/25/Clear_Chimendez.PNG/20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNG[[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 03:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


What are the other reasons the forum's still closed? '''[[File:Clear Chimendez.PNG|[[File:Clear_Chimendez.PNG|20px|thumb]]]][[User:Bad Bad Guy|BBG]]''' 03:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Please disclose the reason the forum is closed for read only. How's that? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


Please disclose the reason the forum is closed for read only. How's that? <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, it may have to do with the fact that the lower (Read as "good") half is now in the archive section. Plus, Stu somehow lost his powers. Let's bombard every modmin with emails! ~[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|6]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|B]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|T]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|M]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|A]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|R]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|O]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]]https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/5/5a/My_sig.png/37px-My_sig.png 00:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with that course of action. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 01:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


Well, it may have to do with the fact that the lower (Read as &quot;good&quot;) half is now in the archive section. Plus, Stu somehow lost his powers. Let's bombard every modmin with emails! ~[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|6]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|B]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|T]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|M]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|A]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|R]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|O]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[File:My sig.png|[[File:My_sig.png|37px|thumb]]]] 00:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
As someone who reads this Wiki fairly often, as well as the forum, I'd like to know just what caused the forum's downfall. I think it's fair to be told, or at least a note posted on the forum itself. [/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.111.114.133 98.111.114.133] 06:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 
I disagree with that course of action. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 01:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 
As someone who reads this Wiki fairly often, as well as the forum, I'd like to know just what caused the forum's downfall. I think it's fair to be told, or at least a note posted on the forum itself. [/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.111.114.133 98.111.114.133] 06:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 
All that at this time is confirmed and publicly available is that the forum moderator ramrod pulled a prank that was taken by the admin team as a sign that his account had been hacked. --<span class="plainlinks" style="white-space: nowrap" title="Now with 50% more bounce!">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother [[File:Mario2.PNG|thumb|Mario2.PNG]]] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]]</span> 06:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


All that at this time is confirmed and publicly available is that the forum moderator ramrod pulled a prank that was taken by the admin team as a sign that his account had been hacked. --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Super_Martyo_Brother https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/b9/Mario2.PNG] [[User:Super Martyo Brother|Super Martyo]] [[User talk:Super Martyo Brother|boing!]] 06:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Lemme clear up a few things. I'm probably not even supposed to say half of this, but since no one else will...
Lemme clear up a few things. I'm probably not even supposed to say half of this, but since no one else will...
 
1) Ramrod did pull a prank, but it ws well-known what was going on between all of the active mod team. He was eventually de-admined due to a misunderstanding. - the "senior admins", Stu, Dot Com and Tom, assumed his account had been hacked and removed him in haste.  
1) Ramrod did pull a prank, but it ws well-known what was going on between all of the active mod team. He was eventually de-admined due to a misunderstanding. - the &quot;senior admins&quot;, Stu, Dot Com and Tom, assumed his account had been hacked and removed him in haste.
 
2) The uproar among users caused by his removal from the administration was a large reason as to why the forum was locked. Dot Com, Stu, and/or Tom put it into read-only mode so that all angered suers would calm down.
2) The uproar among users caused by his removal from the administration was a large reason as to why the forum was locked. Dot Com, Stu, and/or Tom put it into read-only mode so that all angered suers would calm down.
3) Stu resigned from his place as an admin a few days after the forum was locked.
3) Stu resigned from his place as an admin a few days after the forum was locked.
4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive.
4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive.
5) We moderators have no idea as to why the forum is still locked, as I am fairly certain everything that needed to be sorted out was done so long ago. Dot Com has not responded to any of our recent questions, nor has he said when the forum is planned to re-open.
5) We moderators have no idea as to why the forum is still locked, as I am fairly certain everything that needed to be sorted out was done so long ago. Dot Com has not responded to any of our recent questions, nor has he said when the forum is planned to re-open.


Hope that answers a few of your questions - Ju Ju Master.
Hope that answers a few of your questions - Ju Ju Master.
 
I have no inside knowledge here, but let me make a suggestion. CHILL. If the forums reopen too soon, there will be a fountain of drama. No one worth considering wants that. So it may take a while for things to simmer. Be patient. A watched pot never boils. Ignore it, and when you least expect it all will be right. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 08:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I have no inside knowledge here, but let me make a suggestion. CHILL. If the forums reopen too soon, there will be a fountain of drama. No one worth considering wants that. So it may take a while for things to simmer. Be patient. A watched pot never boils. Ignore it, and when you least expect it all will be right. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 08:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Too soon? It's been three weeks. I've been a mod there for a year, no event0based drama lasts more than 24 hours after the event. And you can't supress stuff like that. It'll end up somewhere, no matter how long you wait. Besides, anyone who could potentially cause drama has moved to a whole new forum. - Ju Ju Master
Too soon? It's been three weeks. I've been a mod there for a year, no event0based drama lasts more than 24 hours after the event. And you can't supress stuff like that. It'll end up somewhere, no matter how long you wait. Besides, anyone who could potentially cause drama has moved to a whole new forum. - Ju Ju Master


Qermaq: I do not believe that telling Ju Ju to chill was warranted. Many of the &quot;regular&quot; users on the HRWF--users that have been there for years, and chose to visit both the Homestar and Off Subject sections of the place--were stirred up when this conflict came up, and since many of the Wiki users posting in this discussion section do not seem to understand the situation too well, Ju Ju chose to inform everybody about what exactly went down. I have to agree with him: three weeks is definitely enough of a cool-down time, especially since the Off Subject sections have been known to be permanently locked since nearly the beginning of this issue.
Qermaq: I do not believe that telling Ju Ju to chill was warranted. Many of the "regular" users on the HRWF--users that have been there for years, and chose to visit both the Homestar and Off Subject sections of the place--were stirred up when this conflict came up, and since many of the Wiki users posting in this discussion section do not seem to understand the situation too well, Ju Ju chose to inform everybody about what exactly went down. I have to agree with him: three weeks is definitely enough of a cool-down time, especially since the Off Subject sections have been known to be permanently locked since nearly the beginning of this issue.  
 
It is obvious that the HRWF will never be the same, and it is obvious that many of the regular users to the HRWF are now happier with a better system over at a new message board, and will definitely not go back to the place. Personally, with this change now solidified, I am happy that we have gone our separate ways; the HRWF as just a discussion board for Homestar Runner has never been done before, and I am sure that it will grow in its own way, as our other board grows in its own. - DS_Kid
It is obvious that the HRWF will never be the same, and it is obvious that many of the regular users to the HRWF are now happier with a better system over at a new message board, and will definitely not go back to the place. Personally, with this change now solidified, I am happy that we have gone our separate ways; the HRWF as just a discussion board for Homestar Runner has never been done before, and I am sure that it will grow in its own way, as our other board grows in its own. - DS_Kid


&quot;4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive.&quot; D: *Leaves* ~[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|6]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|B]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|T]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|M]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|A]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|R]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|O]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[File:My sig.png|[[File:My_sig.png|37px|thumb]]]] 21:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
"4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive." D: *Leaves* ~[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|6]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|B]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|T]]_[[User:16 BIT MARIO1|M]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|A]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|R]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|I]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|O]][[User:16 BIT MARIO1|1]]https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/5/5a/My_sig.png/37px-My_sig.png 21:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


We intend to reopen the H*R-related boards soon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
We intend to reopen the H*R-related boards soon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Dot Com: That's good to hear. Please do it soon, or if it will take longer, at least explain why. I don't even plan to return and I'm agitated over this, I'm sure your active users are even moreso. - Ju Ju Master
Dot Com: That's good to hear. Please do it soon, or if it will take longer, at least explain why. I don't even plan to return and I'm agitated over this, I'm sure your active users are even moreso. - Ju Ju Master


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== Stinkoman 20X6 ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Stinkoman 20X6 </span> ==


STINKOMAN 20X6 LEVEL 10 IS COMING OUT!
STINKOMAN 20X6 LEVEL 10 IS COMING OUT!


I'm not finding any evidence of this. Where are you getting this from? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[File:heimstern101.gif|[[File:heimstern101.gif|20px|thumb]]]] 00:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not finding any evidence of this. Where are you getting this from? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/0/08/heimstern101.gif/20px-heimstern101.gif 00:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


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== (Main) namespace calamities?! ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> (Main) namespace calamities?! </span> ==


Is it just me, or is something rather mysterious going on with (main) namespace articles? --'''''[[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Shadow]] [[User talk:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Scythe]]''''' 06:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it just me, or is something rather mysterious going on with (main) namespace articles? --'''''[[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Shadow]] [[User talk:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Scythe]]''''' 06:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


Which articles did you see it on? A vandal recently defaced two templates; perhaps you saw the defacement on a page that includes that template? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[File:heimstern101.gif|[[File:heimstern101.gif|20px|thumb]]]] 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Which articles did you see it on? A vandal recently defaced two templates; perhaps you saw the defacement on a page that includes that template? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/0/08/heimstern101.gif/20px-heimstern101.gif 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Saw it on [[techno]]. Looks like it got fixed pretty easily, although I'm still not sure how he did it there. Guess it wasn't as serious as I thought, anyways. Silly me.... Ah, I see. Fancy fixedposition code in templates. Well... alright then. --'''''[[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Shadow]] [[User talk:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Scythe]]''''' 06:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
<s>Saw it on [[techno]]. Looks like it got fixed pretty easily, although I'm still not sure how he did it there. Guess it wasn't as serious as I thought, anyways. Silly me....</s> Ah, I see. Fancy fixedposition code in templates. Well... alright then. --'''''[[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Shadow]] [[User talk:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Scythe]]''''' 06:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


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== More skins ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> More skins </span> ==


Maybe our admins (and other users) should get designing more skins. anyone who has an account on [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/ SmashWiki] will know why I am saying this. there are only two that I like. Many users are probably in the same boat. Seriously, we need some more skins. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 00:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Maybe our admins (and other users) should get designing more skins. anyone who has an account on [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/ SmashWiki] will know why I am saying this. there are only two that I like. Many users are probably in the same boat. Seriously, we need some more skins. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 00:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 
What skins are enabled is a developer decision, so it doesn't rest with me. Still, I can't see why we need more skins, especially when the developers have many more pressing matters to attend to. New skins can be aesthetically pleasing, but do nothing to make our content better or make the wiki run better. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[File:heimstern101.gif|[[File:heimstern101.gif|20px|thumb]]]] 00:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Bells and whistles FTW, though, Heimstern. --[[User:Theyellowdart|TheYellowDart]]—[[User talk:Theyellowdart|(t]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theyellowdart c)] 00:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


What skins are enabled is a developer decision, so it doesn't rest with me. Still, I can't see why we need more skins, especially when the developers have many more pressing matters to attend to. New skins can be aesthetically pleasing, but do nothing to make our content better or make the wiki run better. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/0/08/heimstern101.gif/20px-heimstern101.gif 00:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Bells and whistles FTW, though, Heimstern. --[[User:Theyellowdart|'''TheYellowDart''']]—[[User talk:Theyellowdart|'''(t''']]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theyellowdart '''c)'''] 00:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought we only had one skin? [[User:JCM|JCM]] 01:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought we only had one skin? [[User:JCM|JCM]] 01:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Ugh, I hate, ''hate'' the new default Wikia skin. I've thought of designing an updated skin for us, but if I ever do, it will look nothing like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Ugh, I hate, ''hate'' the new default Wikia skin. I've thought of designing an updated skin for us, but if I ever do, it will look nothing like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
jcm: There are 3 skins that work here... MonoBook (the default MediaWiki skin), Cologne Blue (a minimalistic one, which I use), and TaviStyle (designed to look like [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=HomestarRunnerWiki Old:], used in an [[User:Phlip/Aprilween|April-fools thing]]). The other stock MediaWiki skins may or may not work... and might need some tweaking in order to look nice... I haven't tried. [[User:Phlip|phlip]] [[User talk:Phlip|T]][/wiki/Special:Contributions/Phlip C] 22:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Modern works. (after IDC did a blockquote fix.) Not sure about the others. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/8/8e/JustOnionBubs.png/22px-JustOnionBubs.png 07:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


jcm: There are 3 skins that work here... MonoBook (the default MediaWiki skin), Cologne Blue (a minimalistic one, which I use), and TaviStyle (designed to look like [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=HomestarRunnerWiki Old:], used in an [[User:Phlip/Aprilween|April-fools thing]]). The other stock MediaWiki skins may or may not work... and might need some tweaking in order to look nice... I haven't tried. <code>[[User:Phlip|phlip]]</code> <sup>[[User talk:Phlip|T]]</sup><sub>[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Phlip C]</sub> 22:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
== A small problem ==
 
Modern works. (after IDC did a blockquote fix.) Not sure about the others. [[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]]'''[[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]]'''[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|[[File:JustOnionBubs.png|22px|thumb]]]] 07:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 
<span id="a-small-problem"></span>
== <span class="mw-headline"> A small problem </span> ==
 
There appears to be an open &lt;small&gt; tag on every page. I believe this is from the Fall Fundraising Drive message on top. --[/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.128.21.118 75.128.21.118] 01:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
I'm not seeing a problem. What's your OS and browser? <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 02:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
[http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrwiki.org%2Findex.php%2FMain_Page there is no problem] the validator would catch that... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
I use Mac OS 10.5.4, with Mozzila Firefox. I have no idea what may be causing this, but it's not much of a problem since I don't visit here too often. (btw, The above IP address is mine.) --[[User:Kanjiro|Kanjiro]] <span class="small">[[File:Tennis ball 2.png|[[File:Tennis_ball_2.png|16px|thumb]]]] [[User talk:Kanjiro|talk]]</span> 03:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Seems it might be an OS-related bug. I use the latest Firefox and no issues. <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 03:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
I can't imagine something client-side doing that... the page gets rendered serverside, then sent. I don't see why a browser would modify the html... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]<span style="color:#4000C0">*</span>[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 03:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Something even more weird is that it is fine now. Oh well, case closed. --[[User:Kanjiro|Kanjiro]] <span class="small">[[File:Tennis ball 2.png|[[File:Tennis_ball_2.png|16px|thumb]]]] [[User talk:Kanjiro|talk]]</span> 05:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


Great. (DeFender, I suspected a W3C compliance bug, perhaps, in the Mac build. Just shooting in the dark....) <span style="color:#960;">- [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C])</span> [[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|[[File:Qermaqsigpic.png|15px|thumb|Image:Qermaqsigpic.png]]]] 09:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be an open <small> tag on every page. I believe this is from the Fall Fundraising Drive message on top. --[/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.128.21.118 75.128.21.118] 01:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


<span id="rss-feed"></span>
I'm not seeing a problem. What's your OS and browser? - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 02:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
== <span class="mw-headline"> RSS Feed </span> ==
[http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrwiki.org%2Findex.php%2FMain_Page there is no problem] the validator would catch that... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I use Mac OS 10.5.4, with Mozzila Firefox. I have no idea what may be causing this, but it's not much of a problem since I don't visit here too often. (btw, The above IP address is mine.) --[[User:Kanjiro|Kanjiro]]  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/48/Tennis_ball_2.png/16px-Tennis_ball_2.png [[User talk:Kanjiro|talk]] 03:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Seems it might be an OS-related bug. I use the latest Firefox and no issues. - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 03:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I can't imagine something client-side doing that... the page gets rendered serverside, then sent. I don't see why a browser would modify the html... — '''''[[User:DeFender1031|Defender1031]]*[[User talk:DeFender1031|Talk]]''''' 03:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Something even more weird is that it is fine now. Oh well, case closed. --[[User:Kanjiro|Kanjiro]]  https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/48/Tennis_ball_2.png/16px-Tennis_ball_2.png [[User talk:Kanjiro|talk]] 05:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Great. (DeFender, I suspected a W3C compliance bug, perhaps, in the Mac build. Just shooting in the dark....) - [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] - ([[User talk:Qermaq|T]]/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Qermaqsigpic.png 09:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


Does HR Wiki have an RSS Feed? [[File:Gooblies Pet Lobster.PNG|[[File:Gooblies_Pet_Lobster.PNG|16px|thumb]]]] [[User:Rootbeersoup|rootbeersoup]] 19:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
== RSS Feed ==


Yep. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&amp;feed=rss Right here]. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs])</span> 20:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Does HR Wiki have an RSS Feed? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/9/9b/Gooblies_Pet_Lobster.PNG/16px-Gooblies_Pet_Lobster.PNG [[User:Rootbeersoup|rootbeersoup]] 19:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


What you're probably looking for is something exactly like [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this feed], provided and hosted by Dan Fabulich of [http://www.theblackforge.net/ theblackforge.net]. More information can be found in [http://www.livejournal.com/community/syn_promo/2005/06/23/ this livejournal post], [http://www.livejournal.com/users/hrwikiupdates/ the livejournal feed page], and [http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=hrwikiupdates the livejournal feed info page]. For feeds provided by the wiki itself, see [[HRWiki:Feeds]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Yep. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Right here]. [[User:DevonM|DevonM]]([[User talk:DevonM|talk]]·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 20:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


What you're probably looking for is something exactly like [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this feed], provided and hosted by Dan Fabulich of [http://www.theblackforge.net/ theblackforge.net].  More information can be found in [http://www.livejournal.com/community/syn_promo/2005/06/23/ this livejournal post], [http://www.livejournal.com/users/hrwikiupdates/ the livejournal feed page], and [http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=hrwikiupdates the livejournal feed info page].  For feeds provided by the wiki itself, see [[HRWiki:Feeds]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
The above feed has been discontinued, so I've built [/wiki/Special:Updates Special:Updates] to take its place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
The above feed has been discontinued, so I've built [/wiki/Special:Updates Special:Updates] to take its place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


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== Rocoulm b/w Beans ==
== <span class="mw-headline"> Rocoulm b/w Beans </span> ==


I just randomly found one of these, and I can't remember if anyone's already seen them. Apparently, there's one for every animation that appears in the Toons menu. <span class="small">— 69.243.144.252 ([[User talk:69.243.144.252|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.243.144.252 contribs]) 02:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC) (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])</span>
I just randomly found one of these, and I can't remember if anyone's already seen them. Apparently, there's one for every animation that appears in the Toons menu. — 69.243.144.252 ([[User talk:69.243.144.252|Talk]] | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.243.144.252 contribs]) 02:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC) (left [[HRWiki:Standards|unsigned]])


[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf]
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf]
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf]
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf]
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf]
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf]


Thanks for pointing that out! Yup, we know about them. There's a link to each of them on the [[Toons]] page under the Preview column. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out! Yup, we know about them. There's a link to each of them on the [[Toons]] page under the Preview column. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)



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Auto Log Out?

I occasionally am logged out for no reason when I don't click the "log out" button. Do we have an automatic log out or something, or is there some glitch in the server? DrPepper42 19:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe your cookies expired. Happens to me on occasion. --DorianGray 19:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Maybe. I didn't know that could happen. Which isn't that unusual. Thanks! 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC) I find there's an inevitable period of time when I come onto the wiki and I am not automatically logged in. Happens. Log in again, be sure to to check the "always keep me logged in" and go. A few times a year ain't a problem. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 23:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC) I'm talking about moving from page to page on the wiki. I don't use "always stay logged in" because I've got a little brother who will probably get me banned. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC) It might be that you're moving between hrwiki.org and www.hrwiki.org, which even though they are the same thing are treated differently by your computer. To avoid the problem, I log in on both. — It's dot com 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC) I'd consider that a glitch in the server. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 18:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC) Without going into too much horrible detail: hrwiki.org and www.hrwiki.org are considered by your browser to be two different sites for technical reasons. This is not a trivial thing to fix. Similarly, the cookies do not translate from one site to the next for security reasons. So, no glitch, just something you gotta keep your eye on. --Stux 02:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC) Given that this is a pretty low security site (no personal info, etc.), you could just set the cookie with a domain of .hrwiki.org --Tabacco 15:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

New inside ref.

Most of my other attempts at officializing inside references have been turned down, so I figured I'd ask here this time.

Marzipan dating The Cheat. This seems to be an omvious recurring theme, even before Date Nite, what with their secret hot dates.

See Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship. --DorianGray 21:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Heroes Con

TBC will be in/near Charlotte, NC this weekend at the Heroes Convention, as confirmed here. They will be at booth 532, and the con goes from Friday to Sunday. DevonM(talk·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Back from the future?

The weekly stuff doesn't seem to be on the site yet... —Einstein runner (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner) 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You're right! Woah! 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 12:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC) After about 2 or more days of it being on HRWiki, it's STILL not on the main site. =/ Who knows, maybe it'll come with the next update? [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Hmm, it's on the main page for me... try clearing your cache. https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.pngTrey'''''56 14:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC) I think he means on the main pages of homestarrunner.com. I doubt that The Brothers Chaps know about this problem so we will never get to see those weeklies (I can't see it either). Hopefully the next time the quotes are updated this problem won't happen again. Homestar-Winner (talk) 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Right, I assumed s/he meant the h*r.com main pages, but as early as last night, I was able to view the weeklies through Main Page 10. Interestingly, though, I can't get them on this (different from last night) computer even after doing a hard refresh. Maybe I have to completely obliterate my cache... https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.pngTrey'''''56 15:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC) What operating system and browser are you useing? I'm using windows vista b/w IE 8.0. Maybe it's got something to do with that. My cache is removed every time I close my browser (Firefox 3 btw), and I'm using Xubuntu 8.04. The games menu also has issues with flashplayer-nonfree for Linux =/ [/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135 66.168.19.135] 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, this is a bit late, but I originally meant that the weekly stuff that was here wasn't on homestarrunner.com. I just wanted to know whether it was and why it was removed. —Einstein runner (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Einstein_runnerhttp://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Emailuser/Einstein_runner) 23:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Background Image

Okay, some questions about the greyscale field background:

  1. Where is the actual file located?
  2. Is there any interest in replacing it with the most up-to-date field/sky that TBC have been using?
    • If so, is there any interest in manipulating it to be a "tiling" background so that it would be seamless for use on any resolution?
    • If not, can we resize the existing one so that it's at least 1280 pixels wide? (1440 pixels wide would be my preference, actually)

Yes, most articles are large enough that the background is almost never seen, but for "young" talk pages it'd be nice for the background to get some pleasing visibility. IMHO. 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 07:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

It's at www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg, 1250 pixels wide and 24kB large. My screen is 1680 pixels wide, and I don't think I noticed the awkward tiling until now. I don't think we should make the image wider. It will increase the file size, and who knows when the next user comes with an even wider screen. But yeah, a version that repeats seamlessly would look better and might even reduce the file size. Having said that, I don't think it's too important to change, either ;-) Loafinghttps://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png 10:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC) Also, the image right now is 523 pixels in height. I don't think many HRWiki'ers use 800x600, so its height could be increased too, by adding to the sky... and there's plenty of sky to work with. That would make the field visible on the screen for longer. And having an increased-size jpeg can't be that much bigger. But unlike any given article image, I guess it is a file that's loaded by thousands more people so maybe that little increase could be a big deal. Anyway, a tiled background wouldn't be entirely authentic to TBC's work but could still make sense. And yes, I know it's not too important to change it, but I'm always asking for a challenge (of the image variety). I'm going to play around with it for a bit. 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 17:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC) Hey! I use 800x600, and I like it! Well, that's when I'm on my computer. No idea what the resolution is on my TV when I'm on my Wii. SuperfieldCreditUnion Are you 60+ or do you just have bad eyesight? =] 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the Wii's Internet Channel emulates an 800x600 screen as well. As for the tiling background issue, it definitely would look better if it were either widened or changed so that the tiling is seamless, though I don't think it's too important to change, as there aren't many pages on the wiki where we end up seeing the entire background image. — Kilroy / talk 18:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC) The Widescreen setting on the Wii makes the resolution something else. Though my laptop is Hi-Definition. (which is wide) 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC) For your information, I prefer not to have everything on my screen about the size of a grain of sand, and I have excellent eyesight. And I do set my Wii to widescreen. SuperfieldCreditUnion {kills colons} What does having grain of sand stuff have to do with anything? Hi-Def leaves stuff the same size, but with a better resolution. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 20:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC) {adds another colon anyway :D} Actually when you set the Wii to widescreen mode, the screen width stays at 800, but the height is changed to something else.. I think it lowers it to around 450 or something. Oh, and I have my Wii set to widescreen mode and text is, for the most part, readable to me. Though whenever I use the Internet Channel on a standard-def TV, the text definitely is grain-of-sand sized.  :S — Kilroy / talk 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC) {kills the new colon} Oh. I thought he was talking about Hi-Def laptop screens. — DrPepper42 (Talk | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/DrPepper42 contribs]) 20:42, 21 June 2008 (left unsigned)

This thread is for discussing the size of our background image. Discussions about why your particular screen resolution p0wns everybody else's should go on the forum. Loafinghttps://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png 20:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I was talking about what effects my screen had on the background. It doesn't look that bad. Maybe I'm just crazy. and, I don't use the forum. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC) As you can see from my awesome colon indentation, I was not replying directly to your post but was rather commenting on this discussion in general. Loafinghttps://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png 00:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

180px-Field.png

Fit to be tiled

Here's the tile and this is what it looks like tiled. I tried grayscaling it and getting the brightness and contrast to match what we already have, but it just wasn't working for me. So these are my results in color. 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 05:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice work, Oppie. The tile effect is positively seamless. If someone could get that greyscaled, I think we should use it. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC) Looks good to me! https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.pngTrey'''''56 19:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC) Awesome job, OptimisticFool! — Kilroy / talk 19:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the support so far, juys. Now here's what I suggest: Replace this 23.5k jpeg with this 11.2k png, thus turning this into this. I added some extra cloudless space at the top of the greyscaled image since it will always be completely covered up. (There are two exceptions (that I can think of) to this: (1) someone blanks a page completely, and (2) a

 goes long, like this (hint: scroll right).)  So, yeah, the extra space allows the background to be visible for longer.  Any other suggestions?  48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 07:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

So, umm.. is this being considered?  48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 21:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, but somebody with the powers would have to actually carry it out. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's another Before and After, this time from my Lappy.  The 1440 width shows it better than the 1280 width.  And Super Martyo, what I was wondering is if the folks with powers were considering this.  =]  48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 17:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh! Yes! I'd read this thread a while ago and just got busy and hadn't had a chance to replace the appropriate files. Not to worry, though, it will be happening. — It's dot com 20:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Cool tapes, man.  =]  48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Another month and a half-ish... is this just low on the to-do list, or has it gotten forgotten?  48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 00:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Not forgotten. We're upgrading to MediaWiki 1.13 soon, and this change will be included in that. — It's dot com 00:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Spongebob in china?

On youtube i found this video and matt chapman name was in it [1] I know it's come up before, though I can't recall where. I believe we decided it was a coincidence. "Matt" and "Chapman" are not uncommon names. --Jay (Gobble) 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC) This is where it was discussed before. Loafinghttps://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/7/78/UserLoafingSig.png 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Accepted Spelling

I think the wiki ought to be consistent in its spelling. Recently the spelling of donut/doughnut reminded me of this. Another one is gummi/gummy. Has the broad subject of consistency in spelling been brought up before? I think it kind of goes in the category of flavor/flavour, as well. Another one that comes to mind is y'all/ya'll. So, do we or should we have a page to list our "decisions" regarding spelling, with its accompanying talk page available to reach a consensus for each of these and others? 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Such things would probably go under HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling. — It's dot com 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC) As a general rule, we spell it like TBC do. If they have not spelled it out, or they have been inconsistent (and we always agree with their spelling in related situations) then we generally use the most accepted spelling based on what evidence we can collect. "Doughnut", IMO, trumps "donut" which is clearly a shortened, slang form. "Y'all" is the correct form; however, we use "ya'll" when TBC do. And obviously American spellings are used over British. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC) I don't agree with you on the spelling of donut.. =] ..but my purpose in bringing this up here was not to gain consensus, but rather to find out where I ought to take these questions of spelling. Since HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling is where the topic is addressed, I'll take it to the talk page of that article. 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 00:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

__utm.js

Anyone know what significance (if any) this has? It doesn't appear to be on the site now, but it used to be. 48px-JustOrangeCouch.png OptimisticFool 03:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC) It's part of a traffic report analyzing system they may have used (or just toyed with... or maybe their ISP just put there... ). The Urchin software was bought by Google in '05. 15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png Green Helmet 03:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Random Junk

Is it just me, or does the rando link, and R on the main pages not work more than normal. This also affects sbemail menu. I constantly can't do rando junk because of it. 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive Hmm, all three seem to be working for me... does it affect anything if you try a different web browser or a different computer? https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.pngTrey'''''56 21:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC) It worked suddenly 4 mins after that. =/ 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive Great! https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.pngTrey'''''56 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC) It does this off and on though, for me at least once a day now. 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive What exactly isn't working? — Defender1031*Talk 21:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC) rando link in the bottom (horizontal) navigation, R button on all of the main pages, and sbemail menu. This happens at least once every day to me. 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive

The [Character Name Here]

Is there an article describing, outlining the use of "The" in character names? If so, what's its name? 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive See Integral Article. — It's dot com 00:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com

As someone interested in reconstructing the history of how the Bros Chaps developed the Homestar universe and website, I would really like to see a feature on the wiki that would list all the content according to the date when it was first added to the Homestar website. Most articles do currently feature dates, but to my knowledge there's no page where the cartoons and other material on the Homestar website are listed by date. I'm not an advanced Wiki person, so I've no idea how much work would be involved, but it strikes me as a really vital resource for the wiki. --Henebry 23:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC) All Toons lists everything by date. 20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNGBBG 23:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC) These have the updates for 2000 and before, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. If you would like a briefer history, go here. DevonM(talk·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 23:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Search Engine Addition In Firefox

Firefox cuts off the search engine name, and labels it as Homestar Runner Wiki (En is there any discussion or whatnot to have the name of the wiki shortened so that it fits? Because it's annoying to see that I can still add Homestar Runner Wiki (English) to the search engines list (The search box also says a new search engine can be added even though I've already added this engine.) You can always bring it up over at Mozilla.com's bugzilla or something, but I'm sure the bug will immediately be marked as invalid. I'm also sure they'll mark it as an invalid enhancement, and state that "The website can shorten its name, there's NO reason why it isn't possible for them to shorten that name." For instance, Why not use HRWiki as a name? 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive I don't get why it should annoy you. That being said, there's no reason for the wiki to shorten its title to something less descriptive just so you can have the full name in your search bar. If you care so much, download the source code to firefox and change the code yourself. As for the "Add Homestar Runner Wiki (English)" still being there, that happens with all search engines. Go to any site that you already have on that list, it will do the same thing. Basically, none of what you said has anything to do with us. — Defender1031*Talk 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC) I have to disagree with the very last statement there. I'll make it harder for you to see (with this youtube video) since you apparently haven't seen it yourself. 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive Fine, you're apparently right. It doesn't happen on other sites. It's still a result of something that has nothing to do with us. — Defender1031*Talk 02:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I'll admit I'm at a loss to understand what the issue is. Can someone summarize in small words, please? - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC) (edit conflict) The "Add Homestar Runner Wiki" thing at the bottom is there because Firefox is detecting a search box on the current page. For example, go to any random page that has a search box on it, (say, https://addons.mozilla.org/) Check that drop-down and you'll see what I mean. (Post edit conflict note: the other issue is aethetic, the name for the wiki is wider than the space Firefox displays it in). 15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png Green Helmet 02:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Ignore the first part, I see the problem now. I'm guessing that because the truncated string doesn't match the full string, Firefox doesn't properly detect that you've already added the search. 15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png Green Helmet 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Qermaq, it's an issue that the firefox search bar only allows names of up to 24 characters. He's suggesting that the wiki shorten its name so it fits, inconveniencing others but fixing his minor annoyance. GreenGuy, no, he's saying it's there even though he's added it already. He's right, this bug in FF causes this as well, but it's a FF problem, and i don't see any reason for the wiki to change to suit one person with one glitchy program. — Defender1031*Talk 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I see the issue. It's not an issue. It's just a bug in FF3 and will likely be corrected down the road. I fail to see the negative consequence of this behavior, though. You can select "Homestar Runner Wiki (En" and type in, as I did, "sbemail50" and it works. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 02:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I can see how it would be a minor annoyance, but seriously... — Defender1031*Talk 02:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I see now. Anyway, yeah I'd say just deal with it (24 is a very small limit to impose, I wouldn't be surprised if the mozzerella coders increase that in future releases). 15px-greenhelmet-transparent.png Green Helmet 02:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Seems a recent update of Firefox may have fixed this issue. 18px-Nohito.PNG ColdReactive 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Bringing back an old discussion

For a while, there was discussion of a main page redesign for our welcome project, but it sort of died in the water. I though this was a good idea, and some of the design were really nice. Any chance of bringing it back, or are we just going to leave it? --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Well, I think it was just one of those things we got too busy for and moved on to other things, but if you have a great idea, I'm sure we'd entertain it. — It's dot com 05:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Well, the redesign was being done in conjunction with adding links to the multilingual welcome pages, which also seems to have gone fallow as well. I suppose both projects are now dormant? wbwolf (t | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wbwolf ed]) 14:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Read-Only Forum

How long will it be until we can post stuff on the forum again? 20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNGBBG 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) That has not yet been determined. — It's dot com 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC) Did you at least find the cause of all the Lucy/Ricky/Billy Mays crap? 20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNGBBG 02:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC) It was a little joke done by the Admin Ramrod. It was supposed to be only temporary, it was only for fun. extremejon — 76.113.157.206 (Talk | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 07:03, 20 July 2008 (left unsigned) I think you mean, it was an ill-conceived stunt gone horribly wrong that was supposed to be a joke done by the former admin ramrod. — It's dot com 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC) Without getting into forum politics, Telltale Games relied on the forum to get information on their game out. - JestyTalk 17:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC) And they will again, once it finally reopens. Not to worry, though: They have accounts here at the wiki, and they have emailed us directly before. I'm confident if they have news, it will reach the appropriate audience. — It's dot com 17:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC) The stunt didn't go wrong until the head admins took action. extremejon — 76.113.157.206 (Talk | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.157.206 contribs]) 20:51, 20 July 2008 (left unsigned) Yeah, you're probably right. — It's dot com 21:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC) Wait, former admin ramrod? You unmodded him? JCM 20:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Do I have rights to know why the forum needs to be closed even after undoing the prank and punishing ramrod? 20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNGBBG 03:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC) That's a weird way to ask that question. — It's dot com 03:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC) What are the other reasons the forum's still closed? 20px-Clear_Chimendez.PNGBBG 03:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Please disclose the reason the forum is closed for read only. How's that? - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Well, it may have to do with the fact that the lower (Read as "good") half is now in the archive section. Plus, Stu somehow lost his powers. Let's bombard every modmin with emails! ~16_BIT_MARIO1https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/37px-My_sig.png 00:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC) I disagree with that course of action. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 01:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC) As someone who reads this Wiki fairly often, as well as the forum, I'd like to know just what caused the forum's downfall. I think it's fair to be told, or at least a note posted on the forum itself. [/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.111.114.133 98.111.114.133] 06:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC) All that at this time is confirmed and publicly available is that the forum moderator ramrod pulled a prank that was taken by the admin team as a sign that his account had been hacked. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 06:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Lemme clear up a few things. I'm probably not even supposed to say half of this, but since no one else will... 1) Ramrod did pull a prank, but it ws well-known what was going on between all of the active mod team. He was eventually de-admined due to a misunderstanding. - the "senior admins", Stu, Dot Com and Tom, assumed his account had been hacked and removed him in haste. 2) The uproar among users caused by his removal from the administration was a large reason as to why the forum was locked. Dot Com, Stu, and/or Tom put it into read-only mode so that all angered suers would calm down. 3) Stu resigned from his place as an admin a few days after the forum was locked. 4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive. 5) We moderators have no idea as to why the forum is still locked, as I am fairly certain everything that needed to be sorted out was done so long ago. Dot Com has not responded to any of our recent questions, nor has he said when the forum is planned to re-open. Hope that answers a few of your questions - Ju Ju Master. I have no inside knowledge here, but let me make a suggestion. CHILL. If the forums reopen too soon, there will be a fountain of drama. No one worth considering wants that. So it may take a while for things to simmer. Be patient. A watched pot never boils. Ignore it, and when you least expect it all will be right. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 08:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Too soon? It's been three weeks. I've been a mod there for a year, no event0based drama lasts more than 24 hours after the event. And you can't supress stuff like that. It'll end up somewhere, no matter how long you wait. Besides, anyone who could potentially cause drama has moved to a whole new forum. - Ju Ju Master Qermaq: I do not believe that telling Ju Ju to chill was warranted. Many of the "regular" users on the HRWF--users that have been there for years, and chose to visit both the Homestar and Off Subject sections of the place--were stirred up when this conflict came up, and since many of the Wiki users posting in this discussion section do not seem to understand the situation too well, Ju Ju chose to inform everybody about what exactly went down. I have to agree with him: three weeks is definitely enough of a cool-down time, especially since the Off Subject sections have been known to be permanently locked since nearly the beginning of this issue. It is obvious that the HRWF will never be the same, and it is obvious that many of the regular users to the HRWF are now happier with a better system over at a new message board, and will definitely not go back to the place. Personally, with this change now solidified, I am happy that we have gone our separate ways; the HRWF as just a discussion board for Homestar Runner has never been done before, and I am sure that it will grow in its own way, as our other board grows in its own. - DS_Kid "4) The H*R themed boards are planned to re-open. The Off-Subject boards will not, and will remain locked as an archive." D: *Leaves* ~16_BIT_MARIO1https://web.archive.org/web/20211001000000im_/37px-My_sig.png 21:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC) We intend to reopen the H*R-related boards soon. — It's dot com 23:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Dot Com: That's good to hear. Please do it soon, or if it will take longer, at least explain why. I don't even plan to return and I'm agitated over this, I'm sure your active users are even moreso. - Ju Ju Master

Stinkoman 20X6

STINKOMAN 20X6 LEVEL 10 IS COMING OUT! I'm not finding any evidence of this. Where are you getting this from? Heimstern Läufer 20px-heimstern101.gif 00:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

(Main) namespace calamities?!

Is it just me, or is something rather mysterious going on with (main) namespace articles? --Shadow Scythe 06:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC) Which articles did you see it on? A vandal recently defaced two templates; perhaps you saw the defacement on a page that includes that template? Heimstern Läufer 20px-heimstern101.gif 06:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC) Saw it on techno. Looks like it got fixed pretty easily, although I'm still not sure how he did it there. Guess it wasn't as serious as I thought, anyways. Silly me.... Ah, I see. Fancy fixedposition code in templates. Well... alright then. --Shadow Scythe 06:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

More skins

Maybe our admins (and other users) should get designing more skins. anyone who has an account on SmashWiki will know why I am saying this. there are only two that I like. Many users are probably in the same boat. Seriously, we need some more skins. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 00:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC) What skins are enabled is a developer decision, so it doesn't rest with me. Still, I can't see why we need more skins, especially when the developers have many more pressing matters to attend to. New skins can be aesthetically pleasing, but do nothing to make our content better or make the wiki run better. Heimstern Läufer 20px-heimstern101.gif 00:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Bells and whistles FTW, though, Heimstern. --TheYellowDart(t/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theyellowdart c)] 00:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC) I thought we only had one skin? JCM 01:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Ugh, I hate, hate the new default Wikia skin. I've thought of designing an updated skin for us, but if I ever do, it will look nothing like that. — It's dot com 02:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC) jcm: There are 3 skins that work here... MonoBook (the default MediaWiki skin), Cologne Blue (a minimalistic one, which I use), and TaviStyle (designed to look like Old:, used in an April-fools thing). The other stock MediaWiki skins may or may not work... and might need some tweaking in order to look nice... I haven't tried. phlip T[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Phlip C] 22:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Modern works. (after IDC did a blockquote fix.) Not sure about the others. 22px-JustOnionBubs.pngDrPepper4222px-JustOnionBubs.png 07:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

A small problem

There appears to be an open tag on every page. I believe this is from the Fall Fundraising Drive message on top. --[/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.128.21.118 75.128.21.118] 01:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC) I'm not seeing a problem. What's your OS and browser? - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 02:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC) there is no problem the validator would catch that... — Defender1031*Talk 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC) I use Mac OS 10.5.4, with Mozzila Firefox. I have no idea what may be causing this, but it's not much of a problem since I don't visit here too often. (btw, The above IP address is mine.) --Kanjiro 16px-Tennis_ball_2.png talk 03:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC) Seems it might be an OS-related bug. I use the latest Firefox and no issues. - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 03:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC) I can't imagine something client-side doing that... the page gets rendered serverside, then sent. I don't see why a browser would modify the html... — Defender1031*Talk 03:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC) Something even more weird is that it is fine now. Oh well, case closed. --Kanjiro 16px-Tennis_ball_2.png talk 05:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC) Great. (DeFender, I suspected a W3C compliance bug, perhaps, in the Mac build. Just shooting in the dark....) - Qermaq - (T/[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qermaq C]) Qermaqsigpic.png 09:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

RSS Feed

Does HR Wiki have an RSS Feed? 16px-Gooblies_Pet_Lobster.PNG rootbeersoup 19:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC) Yep. Right here. DevonM(talk·[/wiki/Special:Contributions/DevonM cont-ribs]) 20:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC) What you're probably looking for is something exactly like this feed, provided and hosted by Dan Fabulich of theblackforge.net. More information can be found in this livejournal post, the livejournal feed page, and the livejournal feed info page. For feeds provided by the wiki itself, see HRWiki:Feeds. -- Tom 00:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC) The above feed has been discontinued, so I've built [/wiki/Special:Updates Special:Updates] to take its place. — It's dot com 16:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Rocoulm b/w Beans

I just randomly found one of these, and I can't remember if anyone's already seen them. Apparently, there's one for every animation that appears in the Toons menu. — 69.243.144.252 (Talk | [/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.243.144.252 contribs]) 02:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC) (left unsigned) http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_ween07.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail182.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_main25.swf Thanks for pointing that out! Yup, we know about them. There's a link to each of them on the Toons page under the Preview column. — It's dot com 03:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)