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* [#Interwiki-style_updates_and_maintenance 1 Interwiki-style updates and maintenance]
** [#Teespring.3F 1.1 Teespring?]
** [#IMDB_Names 1.2 IMDB Names]

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== <span class="mw-headline"> Interwiki-style updates and maintenance </span> ==

''See also [[HRWiki:Projects/Introducing a new Interwiki link]]''

As of July 2018 there are two new subdomains of [[homestarrunner.com]]: <span class="plainlinks">[http://new.homestarrunner.com new.homestarrunner.com]</span> and <span class="plainlinks">[http://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com]</span>. It would be good to have interwiki links (<code>[[new:|]]</code>, <code>[[trogdorboardgame:|]]</code>) for both for ease of linkage. [[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 06:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree! (Though I s'pose that's kind of obvious, since there's not much reason to disagree. So, by &quot;I agree&quot;, I mean &quot;[[isp|do sum bow dis]]&quot;.) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:93%"><span style="text-shadow:#DADADA 0.07em 0.07em 0.07em">[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gfdgsgxgzgdrc [[File:Strong_Bad_in_small_picture_frame.png|18px|thumb]]] '''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|Gfdgsgxg]][[User talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|zgdrc]]'''</span></span> 21:20, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Hey! While we're at it, maybe we could add link prefixes for some other sites that have become relevant recently:

* <code>[[</code><span class="plainlinks"><code>[https://teespring.com teespring]</code></span><code>:|]]</code> Strong Bad's Specialty Shoppe (which we also badly need a page for but that's another issue)
* <code>[[</code><span class="plainlinks"><code>[https://www.fangamer.com fangamer]</code></span><code>:|]]</code> Fangamer store
* <code>[[</code><span class="plainlinks"><code>[https://songwhip.com songwhip]</code></span><code>:|]]</code> used to link to albums on the streamins
* <code>[[</code><span class="plainlinks"><code>[https://www.kickstarter.com kickstarter]</code></span><code>:|]]</code> stuff related to the [[Trogdor!! The Board Game]] campaign
* <code>[[</code><span class="plainlinks"><code>[https://www.twitch.tv twitch]</code></span><code>:|]]</code> streams linked to by Strong Bad a couple times; we wouldn't have to but we might as well

[[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 08:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

These links would be very useful and pretty and I think it would be really cool if we could do this. [[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 05:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I wonder if for some of these (like the less-often used ones or more transient ones) templates might be better solutions? For example: I'd imagine that new would eventually become the regular site and the regular site might become &quot;old&quot;. This would also make it easier for regular users to react to changes. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I can't think of any reasons templates would be preferrable, aside from the new site for the reason you gave (and even then, we can just change the links if we have to). Some of them would be less used, but if anything, I see that as ''more'' reason to use interwiki links rather than templates. After all, interwiki links are built into the wiki, while templates require their own pages. But yeah, I still support all of these. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:93%"><span style="text-shadow:#DADADA 0.07em 0.07em 0.07em">[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gfdgsgxgzgdrc [[File:Strong_Bad_in_small_picture_frame.png|18px|thumb]]] '''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|Gfdgsgxg]][[User talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|zgdrc]]'''</span></span> 23:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

{| class="wikitable sortable plainlinks" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" style="border-collapse:collapse" width="100%"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! interwiki
! base
! wikitext
! example link
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| <code>twitter</code>
| <code>http://twitter.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/1335688989219622916 twitter:StrongBadActual/status/1335688989219622916]]]</code>
| [https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/1335688989219622916 https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/1335688989219622916]
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| <code>youtube</code>
| <code>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=</code>
| <code>[[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yIAFldCuk youtube:-9yIAFldCuk]]]</code>
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yIAFldCuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yIAFldCuk]
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| <code>oldhr</code>
| <code>https://old.homestarrunner.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://old.homestarrunner.com/toons.html oldhr:toons.html]]]</code>
| [https://old.homestarrunner.com/toons.html https://old.homestarrunner.com/toons.html]
|-
| <code>newhr</code>
| <code>http://new.homestarrunner.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://new.homestarrunner.com/images/logo_200x200.png newhr:images/logo_200x200.png]]]</code>
| [https://new.homestarrunner.com/images/logo_200x200.png https://new.homestarrunner.com/images/logo_200x200.png]
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| <code>trogdorboardgame</code>
| <code>https://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com/videos.html trogdorboardgame:videos.html]]]</code>
| [https://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com/videos.html https://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com/videos.html]
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| <code>sbattsg</code>
| <code>https://strongbadallthetimesogreat.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://strongbadallthetimesogreat.com/A447FD258AEBF8C4D4C5C26D7C26BD03EBE704A6 sbattsg:A447FD258AEBF8C4D4C5C26D7C26BD03EBE704A6]]]</code>
| [https://strongbadallthetimesogreat.com/A447FD258AEBF8C4D4C5C26D7C26BD03EBE704A6 https://strongbadallthetimesogreat.com/A447FD258AEBF8C4D4C5C26D7C26BD03EBE704A6]
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| <code>teespring</code>
| <code>https://teespring.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://teespring.com/stores/strong-bads-specialty-shoppe teespring:stores/strong-bads-specialty-shoppe]]]</code>
| [https://teespring.com/stores/strong-bads-specialty-shoppe https://teespring.com/stores/strong-bads-specialty-shoppe]
|-
| <code>fangamer</code>
| <code>https://www.fangamer.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://www.fangamer.com/collections/homestar-runner fangamer:collections/homestar-runner]]]</code>
| [https://www.fangamer.com/collections/homestar-runner https://www.fangamer.com/collections/homestar-runner]
|-
| <code>songwhip</code>
| <code>https://songwhip.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://songwhip.com/strong-bad songwhip:strong-bad]]]</code>
| [https://songwhip.com/strong-bad https://songwhip.com/strong-bad]
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| <code>kickstarter</code>
| <code>https://www.kickstarter.com/</code>
| <code>[[[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1999933720/trogdor-the-board-game kickstarter:projects/1999933720/trogdor-the-board-game]]]</code>
| [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1999933720/trogdor-the-board-game https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1999933720/trogdor-the-board-game]
|-
| <code>twitch</code>
| <code>https://www.twitch.tv/</code>
| <code>[[[https://www.twitch.tv/strongbadactual twitch:strongbadactual]]]</code>
| [https://www.twitch.tv/strongbadactual https://www.twitch.tv/strongbadactual]
|-
| <code>imdb</code>
| <code>https://www.imdb.com/title/</code>
| <code>[[[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092455 imdb:tt0092455]]]</code>
| [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092455 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092455]
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Someone please fill in the table above. The thing I most need to know is whether the base for a given interwiki link should be a simple link to the domain (like Twitter) or something more complex that makes prettier shortcuts (like YouTube). Also I changed &quot;new&quot; to &quot;newhr&quot; because the former was too simple. If you'd like something different, please say so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. The bases for these are all pretty simple. And &quot;newhr&quot; works for me. [[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 22:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

If we want icons for any of these links, here are some: [http://trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com/favicon/favicon.ico trogdorboardgame], [https://teespring.com/compiled_assets/shared/favicon-04c7467dcced3dc43c150d0bac2622b5ad19d8a837db0fcf5fdbac297ea75d92.ico teespring], [https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1962/t/48/assets/favicon-32x32.png?v=4924675089918890079 fangamer], [https://songwhip.com/static/icons/favicon-32x32.png songwhip], [https://ksr-static.imgix.net/xr7jn0op-kickstarter-logo-k-green.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&amp;auto=compress%2Cformat&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=min&amp;s=8378b0b8c1e01b354ba21d44d7af0879 kickstarter], [https://static.twitchcdn.net/assets/favicon-32-d6025c14e900565d6177.png twitch]. <s>new dot homestarrunner dot com's current favicon is [http://new.homestarrunner.com/favicon/favicon.ico kind of ugly], so we may just want to reuse our &quot;hr&quot; icon for that one.</s> [[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 22:47, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Now that the site's been redesigned for 2021, we also need an <code>oldhr</code> to point to the old website. Note that both oldhr and regular hr use HTTPS now. Also, I can't help but wonder if there's a less confusing name we could use for new.homestarrunner.com now that it's a) not new and b) very abandoned. [[User:Lira|Lira]] ''[[User talk:Lira|(talk)]]'' 22:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

I still agree with all of these, but <code>oldhr</code> especially needs to be done as soon as possible. (Also, now that the redesign is up and all the URLs are pretty much set in stone, I see even less reason to use templates. As for the <code>newhr</code> name, I don't think that's too confusing, since &quot;new&quot; is in the URL and it was planned to be the new website.) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:93%"><span style="text-shadow:#DADADA 0.07em 0.07em 0.07em">[/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gfdgsgxgzgdrc [[File:Strong_Bad_in_small_picture_frame.png|18px|thumb]]] '''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|Gfdgsgxg]][[User talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc|zgdrc]]'''</span></span> 04:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

IMDB links are now broken. For some time now the us domain now leads to a help document, breaking all our links (and other site's links). See [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|this section]] for an example. I've added imdb to the table above with a fix (it won't work for names probably but the original wasn't set up for that either). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Sweeet! Thank you very much! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

While looking at [[Help:Namespaces]] (didn't realize that was a thing) I noticed that the [[Videlectrix]] namespace ([https://old.homestarrunner.com/videlectrix/index.html Videlectrix:index.html]) should now point to the old HR domain (e.g. <span class="plainlinks">[https://old.homestarrunner.com/videlectrix/index.html this location]</span>) as the current setup generates 404 errors. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. I also fixed the [https://old.homestarrunner.com/podcast/ Podstar] link. I completely disabled &quot;HRStore&quot; because it was pointing to a sketchy domain reseller. (It used to point to homestarrunnerstore.com [is ''that'' noted anywhere?]; it now just points to [[Store]] as a placeholder.) I tried to point it to the Internet Archive, but I got an error. I'm open to suggestion. If there's no suitable place to point it, then we'll need to update any links that still use it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again Dot com! Now, linking to the internet archive can sometimes be tricky, but it's pretty flexible once you get things right. I would suggest trying the following format:

<code>https://web.archive.org/web/20050626232117/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/</code>

Using the [[Store Front Page News 2006]] page as reference, the [http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/kickcheat1.html Kick The Cheat] link would the point to [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/kickcheat1.html [1]]. It may not always work since there are likely pages that were never archived by the site but it should hopefully cover a decent amount of pages. The explicit date will force the archive to find the version of the page closest to that date (I forget if it's before or after).

Also, it seems like a lot, if not all of the link favicons are gone? Not only &quot;HR:&quot; links but it seems also &quot;Youtube:&quot; links seem to be missing their icon. Was that deliberate or accidental? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I was trying to look up the archive for the <code>homestarrunnerstore.com</code> domain directly, and it didn't like that. I pointed it to a date at the beginning 2007 before the Kick The Cheat was sold out. It doesn't have images, but it seems to work for most of the text, and it's better than nothing.

As for the favicons, I think that issue cropped up when we switched from <code>http</code> to <code>https</code> in our links. I attempted <span class="plainlinks">[[MediaWiki:Common.css|a fix]]</span>, but it's not showing up. I'm gonna give it a bit to see if it's just a matter of some cache refreshing before I try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Sweet! Thanks for the fix to the store links. These links seem to be working well :). As for the favicon fix, I tried looking with my very meager CSS skills (and with the help of the DOM inspector) all I could tell was that it seemed like the <span class="plainlinks">[http://hrwiki.org/w/skins/monobook/main.css monobook main.css]</span> page was involved (in the line <code>#bodyContent a[href ^=&quot;https://&quot;]</code>) but that too was included but ignored. In fact my testing showed that not even [https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues regular https links] have the lock icon ([http://hrwiki.org/w/skins/monobook/lock_icon.gif]) displaying but non-https [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJB-Ji_YdMA youtube links] still work maybe because they don't have that possibly conflicting rule? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I figured it out. It's always <span class="plainlinks">[[MediaWiki:Common.css|the little things]]</span> that trip you up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

At some point [http://www.telltale.com/ Telltale.com] moved their forums from the subdirectory www.telltale.com/forums to the sub''domain'' community.telltale.com — this breaks the interwiki-style link setup. Is there any way to adjust the link template to support this new link structure? --<span style="white-space: nowrap; font-family: Trebuchet MS"> [[User:Bleu Ninja|Bleu Ninja]] [[File:STBsprite.PNG|[[File:STBsprite.PNG|16px|thumb]]]] </span> 21:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Late reply, sorry. Is this still needed? I've identified exactly four pages that appear to link to the Telltale forums:

* [[Snake Boxer 5]]
* [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]
* [[Telltale Games]]
* [[Talk:Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]

Most of those have already been fixed to just use an external link. The rest could be easily. Is there really a call for a dedicated shortcut for that? As for the main Telltale links, they're all 404'd now. Should we adjust the shortcut so that it points to the Internet Archive or something? (If so, what exactly do we need to change it to?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

That's a fair point, I think the external link is working well enough. As far as main links, apart from [https://www.telltale.com/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/ https://www.telltale.com/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/] the site's shifting in recent years makes me favor archive links generally. --<span style="white-space: nowrap; font-family: Trebuchet MS"> [[User:Bleu Ninja|Bleu Ninja]] [[File:STBsprite.PNG|[[File:STBsprite.PNG|16px|thumb]]]] </span> 19:06, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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=== <span class="mw-headline"> Teespring? </span> ===

It seems that Teespring has changed its url and previous links no longer work. See [[Talk:Teespring|this section]] for more information. I'm not sure what the best solution would be: update the link to point to the new url or create a new one? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

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=== <span class="mw-headline"> IMDB Names </span> ===

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but in the [[@ronginald]] page the following name link was not working and had to be <span class="plainlinks">[[@ronginald|added manually]]</span>: [https://www.imdb.com/title/nm2956436 Joshua Pruett] (see how it links to &quot;[https://www.imdb.com/title/nm2956436 title]&quot; instead of &quot;[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2956436/ name]&quot;). I thought the names issue had been automagically resolved? I vaguely remember suggesting a separate imdb names link which somehow became obsolete. But maybe I'm remembering it wrong. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Other instances: [[Matt Chapman|1]], [[Mike Chapman|2]], [[The Brothers Chaps|3]], [[Bubs|4]], [[techno|5]], [[crying|6]], [[Songs|7]], [[Songs|8]], [[Bug In Mouth Disease|9]], [[Alex Hirsch|10]], [[Chad Eikhoff|11]] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

'''UPDATE:''' I found the solution to this problem in [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/%2B/HEAD/maintenance/interwiki.list Mediawiki's own interwiki list]. It uses the following entry:

<pre>imdb|http://www.imdb.com/find?q=$1&amp;tt=on|0|</pre>
I generated the following URL links:

* [[Flight of the Navigator]] — [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091059 imdb:tt0091059] (takes me to [http://www.imdb.com/find?q=tt0091059&amp;tt=on this location])
* [[Sarah Jessica Parker]] — [https://www.imdb.com/title/nm0000572 imdb:nm0000572] (takes me to [http://www.imdb.com/find?q=nm0000572&amp;tt=on this location])

And I was able to use those links to navigate to the correct pages! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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